[wfrp] Лесные и иные эльфы в игре. Потерянные сородичи

[tyvaldr]

Сейчас начал разбираться с лесными эльфами для написания книги по 2 редакции с описанием «какая подрасса где живет и что делает». Чтобы вводные было удобнее давать.

Выяснилось:
Wood elves, last paragraph of p. 26, which says "A few wood elves wander the realm of men in self-imposed exile for dishonouring their kinband, perhaps by allowing enemies to escape, or failing to save a kindred-brother’s life. Also, legend speaks of the Lost Kindred who long ago migrated across the Grey Mountains. Their descendants may yet haunt the most remote parts of the Reikwald.".
«Кроме того, легенда говорит о Потерянных Сородичах, давно переселившихся за Серые горы . Их потомки все еще можно встретить в самые отдаленных частях Reikwald».

Далее смотрим коребук WFRP для генерации персонажей и видим:
City of Altdorf
City of Marienburg
Laurelorn Forest
The Great Forest
Reikwald Forest

Для Лаурелорнских есть самописная книга под WFRP 1ed: http://www.madalfred.darcore.net/articles/Laurelorn_Elves.rtf (для 2 редакции надо адаптировать).

Далее узнаем:
The 6th ed. rulebook mentions small WE communities in the Forest of Shadows and in the Drakwald forest. (p. 171)

Итого уже получаем:
City of Altdorf
City of Marienburg
Laurelorn Forest
The Great Forest
Reikwald Forest
Forest of Shadows
Drakwald forest

Комментаторы добавляют:
Forest of Arden, Forest of Chalons

Смотрим список лесов в Старом Мире:
http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Forest
The Forest of Shadows in Ostland.
Gorewood is a subzone in WAR.
Raven's End Wood is a subzone in WAR.
The Great Forest in Talabecland.
Gryphon's Woods in north-east Talabecland.
Rindelwood is a subzone in WAR.
Taalwood is a subzone in WAR.
Witchfire Wood is a subzone in WAR.
Laurelorn Forest in western Nordland. (Home to the largest Wood Elf community in The Empire.)
Hangman's Wood is a subzone in WAR.
The Reikwald in Reikland.
Reikwald Forest is a subzone in WAR.
Grauenburg Forest is a subzone in WAR.
The Drakwald Forest in Middenland and Nordland.

Итак, имеем, что колонии, поселения и отдельные представители (в городах) лесных эльфов находятся в:
1 City of Altdorf
2 City of Marienburg
3 Forest of Arden
4 Forest of Chalons
5 The Forest of Shadows in Ostland (Gorewood and Raven's End Wood)
6 The Great Forest in Talabecland (Gryphon's Woods, Rindelwood, Taalwood, and Witchfire)
7 Laurelorn Forest in western Nordland (Hangman's Wood)
8 The Reikwald in Reikland (Reikwald Forest and Grauenburg Forest)
9 The Drakwald Forest in Middenland and Nordland.
10 Скорее всего и кислевские леса...

[Геометр Теней]

Очень прошу - если вы переводите что-то, избегайте несуществующего слова "подраССа". (Если совсем уж быть точным, то там даже не подраса, а подвид - ну да ладно, слово "раса" в переводах прижилось). А то прямо-таки проникаешься характерным для остроухих отношением к людям - причём чем больше ошибок на кв. см. печатного текста, тем больше отношение смещается куда-то на север, в сторону традиций жителей Наггарота...

[tyvaldr]

Очень прошу - если вы переводите что-то, избегайте несуществующего слова "подраССа". (Если совсем уж быть точным, то там даже не подраса, а подвид - ну да ладно, слово "раса" в переводах прижилось). А то прямо-таки проникаешься характерным для остроухих отношением к людям - причём чем больше ошибок на кв. см. печатного текста, тем больше отношение смещается куда-то на север, в сторону традиций жителей Наггарота...

Извините, я тут параллельно просто программирую генерацию таблиц для определения санитарного состояния лесов на Россию, вот мозг уже совсем и отключается от этого, а вечером ещё и перевод продолжать коребука и помогать жене с сессией

[tyvaldr]

Поправки:
Итак, имеем, что колонии, поселения и отдельные представители (в городах) эльфов находятся в Старом Свете здесь:

Wood Elves (лесные эльфы)
1 Athel Loren
1 Forest of Arden
2 Forest of Chalons
3 The Forest of Shadows in Ostland (Gorewood and Raven's End Wood)
4 The Great Forest in Talabecland (Gryphon's Woods, Rindelwood, Taalwood, and Witchfire)
5 Laurelorn Forest in western Nordland (Hangman's Wood)
6 The Reikwald in Reikland (Reikwald Forest and Grauenburg Forest)
7 The Drakwald Forest in Middenland and Nordland.
8 Скорее всего и кислевские леса...

High Elves (Высшие эльфы)
1 City of Altdorf - WFRP 2ed, Corebook и другие книги (заселение учреждении при Магнусе магических орденов во время войны с Хаосом).

Sea Elves (сейчас часть Высших эльфов - корсары (Ночные эльфы это часть Темных): «In the first edition of the game, there were two other Elven armies noted: the "Sea Elves" and the "Night Elves". Sea Elves were essentially the Elves of the more practical and worldly Outer Kingdoms of Ulthuan, and the Night Elves are now considered part of the Dark Elves.»)
1 City of Marienburg («2150 IC: This marks the important date when the Sea Elves returned to the Old World, and Marienburg offered their original Land back in exchange for exclusive trading rights. Marienburg now plays host to the largest Sea Elf Enclave, with all the riches that entails.» — White Dwarf, Marienburg article; дополнение в Warpstone #14; Marienburg Sold down the River)

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О Мариенбурге:
But no one outside the innermost circle of power in Marienburg
knew about the secret protocols that bound the Elves to defend
Marienburg against all attackers. It became painfully clear, though,
after the defeat of the Imperial Army of the Lower Reik when Count
Zelt was forced to surrender his sword to a Sea Elf wizard before
a combined force of Wastelander militia and Sea Elf Marines.
Whatever their reasons, the High Elf Kingdom of Ulthuan has com-
mitted itself to the defence of Marienburg.
...
ELFTOWN LAW Elftown (Elfsgemeente), while technically
a part of Marienburg, is governed under
Sea Elf law. By the Treaty of Amity and Com-
merce, all crimes involving Elves - even
Wood Elves from the interior of the conti-
nent - fal l under the authority of the Phoenix
King of Ulthuan through his regent, the
Exarch of Sith Rionnasc' namishathir.
Similar to the Star Chamber, the Exarch
claims authority over crimes committed by
non-Elves against Elves, even if said crime
happened in Marienburg proper. Sea Elf
law is different to Marienburg's, more subtle
in many ways, and many lawyers have found
themselves entangled in it and their clients
unexpectedly found guilty.
People accused are brought before the
Exarch for judgment under the laws of
Ulthuan. Those convicted in Elftown face
punishments roughly similar to those in
Marienburg: minor offences warrant fines
or floggings, while serious crimes such as
murder and arson earn the culprit a sen-
tence of death by drowning. The Elves do
not maintain jails.
Elftown's Watch is known around
Marienburg as the Mannikins, a corruption
of the Tar-Eltharin word Manniocs-quinsh,
or 'Guardians of the Peace'. Though they
have the authority to make arrests for crimes
involving Elves anywhere in the Wasteland,
under most circumstances they do not leave
Elftown - not since the riots of 2391, which
erupted after the arrest and execution of
two men who had killed an Elf in a fight.
More often they rely on the City Watch to
arrest and extradite suspects. Anxious to
maintain good relations with the Elves, the
Directorate has ordered that this be done
as efficiently as possible. This means that
the suspect is often arrested, hauled across
the Elfgate bridge and handed over within
hours, with no way to appeal for help.
If a case is important and the need is
urgent, the Mannikins will operate under-
cover outside their own quarter. Though
the Watch has no love of them for this, their
orders are to stand aside rather than risk
an incident.
- Marienburg Sold down the River

Оказавшись в центре конфликта, который позже стал известен как Великая Война против Хаоса, Магнус Благочестивый решил использовать разрушительные способности людских заклинателей. Отменив неписанный запрет на чародейство, он призвал на помощь в создании коллегий Магии в Альтдорфе высшего эльфа  — волшебника Теклиса. Используя эффективные и непредсказуемые силы первых легальных волшебников, он смог переломить ситуацию, выиграть войну, а также изменить Империю навсегда.
- wfrp 2ed, corebook

The Ulthuan Embassy [26] is situated close to the Royal Conservatory.  Established after the Great War Against Chaos, the relations between the Empire and Ulthuan have been fairly cordial, except for the years during and shortly after Marienburg’s independence.  Officially, the Empire recognises Ulthuan’s suzerainty over the Wood Elves of the Laurelorn to the north, though no one has seem to bother telling the “rustic cousins” of this development.  This official recognition is a sore point with Middenland and Nordland as both see Ulthuan as little more than interlopers in their region.  When not at official functions requiring his attendance, Ambassador Tymalier Eskeladel is usually found within the embassy.  There are times when the High Elf emissary departs with several Ulthuan guards through the south gate to wander in the nearby forest in order to escape the stench of the Imperial capital and its uncouth human inhabitants.
- Key to Aldorf map - http://www.madalfred.darcore.net/articles/Altdorf.rtf

Итого: большая колония в Мариенбурге морских высших эльфов и небольшая колония высших эльфов в Альтдорфе в районе посольства.

Что интересно, эльфы Лаурелорна (и, по аналогии с ними, иные не ательлоренские лесные эльфы) официально считаются сюзеренами Высших эльфов (впрочем, эльфы Атель Лорена тоже могут де-юре числиться в юрисдикции Ультуана).

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Хроника:
The War of The Beard (referred to by the Dwarfs as the War of Vengeance or Great Betrayal) was a great conflict fought from around -1997 IC to -1560 (though some battles occurred later, notably the Seige of Sith Rionnasc'namishashir in -1502) on the Imperial Calendar between the proud High Elves and the unforgiving Dwarfs. While the war itself was orchestrated by the Witch-King Malekith, both the Asur and Dawi hold much of the blame for the tragedy. The whole affair was a great travesty and served only to weaken each race - neither the Dwarfs nor the High Elves have ever recovered. After the war, the Asur who stayed in the Old World became the Asrai or Wood Elves.
Примечание: Sith Rionnasc'namishashir это нынешний Мариенбург

-1501 Athel Loren is founded by High Elves who choose to remain in the Old World, who become the Asrai, or Wood Elves.

As a trophy, the Dawi took the crown of Phoenix King from Caledor I's body and with their honour sated, retreated to their mountain keeps. The Asur sent an envoy asking for the return of the crown, and the Dwarfs sent an envoy in return, saying that if the Elves wanted the crown back, they should come to Karaz-a-Karak with an army and beg for its return. The Asur began gathering an army to lay siege to the Everpeak, the world's most unassailable fortress. However by this time Malekith's plan had come to fruition and the Druchii has launched a titanic invasion of Ulthuan, their legions of warriors raising the ancient sunken city of Anlec from the depths of the Great Ocean. It was ordered that all the Asur, soldier, civilian and otherwise retreat from the Old World to defend Ulthuan and to stop the pointless slaughter that was named The War of the Beard. To this day, though another crown was made, the first Phoenix Crown lies in the great treasure hoard of Karaz-a-Karak. The main part of the war was over, though some isolated colonies still existed, the fortress of Sith Rionnasc'namishashir, ("Star Gem of the Sea in Eltharin) was razed in -1502. It marks the last major conflict between Elves and Dwarfs.

Although the Dwarfs claim to this day that they won the War of Vengeance, the truth is that neither the Asur nor the Dawi won. The war cost the Dwarfs two things; the lives of thousands of brave dwarves and more importantly, a powerful ally. With the Asur gone and the Dawi severely weakened, thousands of Greenskins overran the Old World, Night Goblins and Skaven conquered many Dawi strongholds and Beastmen swarmed into the forests. These marauding hordes would not be subdued until the migration of humans over a thousand years later, and the time of Sigmar, a thousand years after that, though they have never been fully exterminated from the Old World. The exception to this was in the magical wood of Athel Loren, where the Elves who dwelt there chose to remain even after the Asur has left, they are now known as the Asrai - though they retain a scintillating hatred of the Dwarfs. To this day, the Dwarfs refer to the High Elves as Oathbreakers and there exists a great distrust between the races. The Dawi may have won the battle against the Asur but in doing so they had weakened themselves and the Elves enough to put both civilisations into a decline which continues into modern times.

[tyvaldr]

Выяснил, что марьенбургские и не ательлорнские эльфы это Grey Elves (sometimes called Asthoi, Dispossessed).

Решил, что по подвидам надо писать миникнигу для мастера и игроков, собирая по крупицам их специфику и тп... Ну и схалявили авторы второй редакции с этим, придется по старым мануалам и фантекстам собирать инфу....